In this capacity, he provided executive leadership to 3,200 personnel located in 220 offices throughout the world who were responsible for investigating felony-level investigations, as well as conducting counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations. Now I've also mentioned about the application of suicide ideations in workplace violence prevention. Times you know well, where did you find your staff and a lot of people don't like my answer, so I don't. His wide-ranging career makes him one of the most influential counterintelligence and insider threat practitioners in the country. Below are the 3 lessons I learned from my conversation with Doug. The Board of Directors is briefed every year. We're talking about a small set of data files. Threatswitch and for those of you who don't know us, we are a company that provides software to help companies manage compliance with things like insider threats CMMC and NISPOM And help you reduce the cost of doing it. But sometimes are fuels to national security and patriotism. /Img2 9 0 R endobj So we end up delaying a robust program because we had to build the programs, build a tool in House, which I is the last thing I wanted to do. And why is that? I have our chief Privacy Officer on Speed dial. That's why we'll be sharing our CEO's lessons-learned each month right here on the ThreatSwitch blog. It knows that, OK, the tools designed like that, so the analyst can't readily see Doug Thomas is information because he's overseas. How do you guys cope with what has been traditionally a bit of a stove fight between what I would call traditional national security and counterintelligence an IT security or information security? And part of that staff is our computer incident response team that works for this system. This just depicts our organizational structure, where it's a centralized mission for sure, but decentralized execution. You move over to the second column development. >> Lockheed Martin Invests $8.5 Million in Scholarship Programs for 2023. But it also includes workplace violence on the scale of a Nadal Hassan or an Aaron Alexis. She kept the model structurally sound and worthy of its pilot throughout filming. OK, it's OK to go to another company. He tried to download a bunch of data a lot more than 49 files. Recruiting military & Veteran talent is absolutely crucial to Lockheed Martin. It's built, it's in desperate databases that never talk to each other, but the data is probably already in your company somewhere, so we had to identify where that data was, who the data owners were, and then we had to convince them why it was in everybody's best interest to work with us. And in addition, I would just remind everybody that this is the part of a series on insider threat. << I mean, 'cause. So we will be sharing that with you after the webinars over, including the recording, so be sure to check back there if you're looking for the slots or the recording. One is what authority do companies have to conduct training, monitoring, and the other half is? And they all liked it. If you missed Doug's webinar you can always head to our resources page to view the recording, along with many other great speakers and tools to help you succeed. Well, you know what? So, it was an easy choice to come back., The extra support that comes with training, mentoring and connecting with others having a similar experience is invaluable.. endobj He coordinates the technical development of the X-plane design currently being developed in partnership with NASA. For info on our next webinar with that, thank you, Doug. OK, there is no way we're resourced to do. Denmark English Danish . All Rights Reserved. Vice President of Business Development. They're really kind of two questions here. So for the companies that I'm out addressing right now, if you have employees at work, overseas dot TDY, not on business travel but work overseas, you have to abide by every country's privacy laws. What do you do with that when the tool tells you there's a typical behavior 'cause not all atypical behaviors concerning behavior? We took it outside counsel. So be on the lookout. Vice President, Program Management at Lockheed Martin. How do you? In this capacity, he leads a staff that is responsible for providing advice and guidance relative to counterintelligence and counterterrorism matters impacting the Corporation. We don't go into great detail about these specific data if you will, but what I will tell you is that at the end of the day. 11/21/2022 2:39 PM. Taking the next generation widget to market. Mr. Thomas retired from this position on October 1, 2011. So that's really good support. Buy in. If we can't answer him during the webinar, will be sure to try to get back with you after we have a lot of ground to cover so we will do our best to get every single question answer. Lucio builds air vehicle models as a laboratory mechanic, converting conceptual drawings into reality. /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ] Can Blue Apron Develop a Recipe for Profitability? /Type /Catalog OK it took a few years to get to that point. The other thing that we did is we identified our companies critical assets are critical personnel who work on those critical assets. That's part one, and then in general there are other departments that you find that are most challenging, or require the most work and to get along with, and we promised not to tell them. It absolutely did, because of the history wasn't all that close before, but we are both benefiting from it. % So I'm going to let your imagination run wild on the kind of data we collect and analyze. Our corporate headquarters, which is why I said, sets the tone with the priorities. So it might sound like a small thing, but. Dr. Michael is the lead engineer for theX-59 QueSST. Well, our CEO wanted us to make sure that we were messaging correctly to the employee workforce relative to this new program. This single chart answers the vast majority of questions I've received over the years regarding the stand up and the execution of the program. Doug Thomas is theHenry E. McWane Professor of Business Administration at the Darden School of Business. We are delighted to be talking about 11 lessons from Lockheed Martin's Insider threat program and to help us talk about that. So now that got us a little concerned. And it gets in the news. I would love to introduce and fast things shortly to Doug Thomas a little bit about it Doug. I'm almost done. So this next bill is kind of interesting federal law enforcement referral. This is the definition we use in Lockheed Martin. Behind each Freedom-variant Littoral Combat Ship, and all that encompasses it, are the people who work to make the ships what they are. OK, good morning. Douglas D. Thomas Director, Counterintelligence Operations & Corporate Investigations July 18, 2017 Counterintelligence & Insider Threat Detection National Insider Threat Special Interest Group. I'm the founder and CEO. From each business area and then the hope was that the business areas would submit their top 10 and the Chief Technology officer would narrow that down to 10. He serves as a senior editor forProduction and Operations Management. Quite frankly there isn't a right answer as to where this. He lied. I hope I did not waste your time and I hope you got at least one nugget out of this. Now today I get that information before the supervisors get that information. Of our office is because I spend a lot of time and so does everybody. >> Get to know Darden alumni across the globe via the Alumni Spotlight. As I reflect on our journey. So what I'm going to do today is I'm going to talk a little bit about a way to stand up and execute a program. And if you think about it, every company does some form of due diligence before they let somebody have these accesses. You might have heard of Lockheed Martin; they are a pretty big company. It has allowed them to connect and form lasting bonds., Everyone doesnt always respond positively at first when bringing new ideas to the table. 2 0 obj Alright, that's excellent advice, Doug. Is that something Lockheed Martin is done where they've gone out to the unclear population and obtain some separate consent? He said he didn't do any kind of a download like that. And do we really do counterintelligence? x^X$W Again, it's almost like I was saying before about where this is opposite. So his nice confession if you will, is immediately placed on leave and was physically exited from the company. Well at that time we were 140,000 people. But there are some similarities. In this capacity, he leads a staff that is responsible for providing advice and guidance relative to counterintelligence and counterterrorism matters impacting the Corporation. The clear population generally has by default consented to some level of monitoring and information sharing for that uncleared population. So you have to have a discussion with them of what's really critical. Doug is the Director of Counterintelligence and Corporate Investigations for Lockheed Martin. As a person who loves aviation, I can say with certainty that I love what I do., Lockheed Martin has been a large part of my career, and I plan to stay here. July 9, 2003 / 6:40 AM / CBS/AP Police say gunshots and then bedlam exploded Tuesday morning at the Lockheed Martin assembly plant in Meridian, Miss., as a white factory worker described as a. /Pages 2 0 R Well, from a from a authority standpoint, on systems everybody probably has it when you first sign in that you're agreeing to your monitoring. Hey great thank you John, I appreciate it. They are an insider. What do they get excited about? I remember going to the general counsel making the case to refer this in 811 referral, a formal referral to the barrel. Click here to see the career opportunities in your area. But none of them had what we need, and at the end of the day, what we needed was something that looked at the human behavior and in digital behavior. So I was getting things like, yeah, 35. What I mean by that is? A full-time, 21-month curriculum and a global perspective to develop leaders of purpose. Previous to his role within the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Mr. Thomas was a Special Agent for 25 years with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. OK, so think about the data in the tool. That's why I said early on that you gotta have some incredible patience. Now the program smart enough to know that I could compare Doug to Kristen or Doug to John, and it can do that if you want it to. That's how close our relationship is, because as I mentioned before, the execution of program, it's critical that it's executed in a manner that. Doug Thomas General Manager at Northstar Access (Formerly Northstar Scaffold , Scaffold Russ Dilworth) Toronto, ON Doug Thomas Owner at Doug Thomas Firewood Dexter, ME Doug Thomas. )r&7]l9Y3"t!Hq;31X!2GkgY&tpZ9q ee;.hy#@eJZ(\ZCap ;3YX HKAW_F@bS3Tw;-+) !46=2wAu FBb'V0L0XWK(zwXA7!vb9sl" What I tell people is until you shine a spotlight on this problem set and what I mean by that is invest in at least one resource until you shine a spotlight on this problem that you have no clue what's walking out your door Done. It hasn't been changed in the executive order yet, although I have seen it in the NDAA word for word. Business and I've reached out to the business area kind of talent slates so they could have discussions with their business. Contact. I would say the exact same thing. And we watched him, and sure enough. The other 50% are human behavior stuff. Lockheed Martin 23 years 2 months Senior Software Engineering Manager Apr 2022 - Present11 months Huntsville, Alabama, United States Software Engineering Manager Oct 2019 - Apr 20222 years 7. The Lockheed Corporation traces its origins to 1913, when Allan and Malcolm Loughead (pronounced lock-heed) successfully piloted their garage-built seaplane across San Francisco Bay in California. Douglas Rood is a Manager, Test Engineering ASC at Lockheed Martin based in Bethesda, Maryland. So some people say well, did he get prosecuted well? As an engineer, I love this challenge because I am always learning, creating and seeking solutions that benefit the system around me and the people next to me., I wondered how to fit this role into my already busy life, but my co-workers were so encouraging. That's the result? UVA Darden It didn't start off all that well. Pardon me Who's been involved in that asset discussion? It knows that Doug Thomas works in the UK or Canada or Australia. For sometime. The ramifications of this was. I made an appointment with the CIO and the CIS so I could go in and sit down with them and talk to them about who I was. Thomas currently teaches courses in the areas of supply chain management and quantitative modeling in Darden's MBA, Executive MBA and Ph.D. programs. Now, let me expand on that a little bit. When I first did this office up, I wanted it. And this person Was on our radar already. We spend a lot of time on training and awareness of our workforce, making sure they understand what the threat is is not just a threat against the company and the company. Of course, because this could be easily viewed, interpret it as something really intrusive, so you really have to work on your messaging an that words matter. >> Requires a human being to analyze the data, but that we rely a lot on the tool. So which I'm also on an. w/$dPQb+[W4]iSs&!IH:>p\!}{lP!` BE "@6x93r%J+2. You better have cyber onboard security, HR, ethics, legal and communications on board. Is this so the analysts have no clue who they're looking at. Doug is the Director of Counterintelligence and Corporate Investigations for Lockheed Martin. That's kind of like sacred ground. Previously, Dougl Read More Contact Douglas Thomas's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/20/2022 10:24 PM Email d***@lockheedmartin.com Engage via Email Contact Number (301) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number So thank you for that. Uh, again letters to the company hit the gaining company about what he did and putting them on notice that they use any of his data. View Doug Thomas' email address and phone number. Thats why having the opportunity to do that daily and assist transitioning service members, veterans, and spouses with opportunities at a company like Lockheed Martin is just amazing., I love having the opportunity to connect with our transitioning service members and provide a bridge for them to cross as they begin their next career. And so he reached out to them and they all came in and I asked for the top 10. The people executing the mission us in the business areas, executing the mission, and it helps the leadership understand that hey, we are executing the mission. Prior to that, he was the principal deputy Director of Counterintelligence, spent 25 years with the Air Force as a special agent. Doug Wilhelm's Phone Number and Email. WHY THE NRA'S CHIEF LOBBYIST LEFT: The National Rifle Association 's top lobbyist left the scandal-plagued gun rights group this week after nearly two . Well, they wanted to hear more about it as it evolved, and ever since I've been doing it, they keep wanting it to come back on an annual basis. 4 0 obj The reason why these 2 are in the same office. This is a team sport, so knowing that we were asked to write a concept of operations of what is this program and what isn't this program and one of the things we did is we identified the right people within legal privacy, HR. Jason is a radio frequency engineer overseeing the procurement, assembly, and production of parts on the shop floor. Communications ethics an information security to come up with a concept of operations that was legally sign in regulatory sound that describe what the functions actually are and what we aren't going to do with it. Last Update. What we do is, we think of new data that we're not even. I've really beat to death the communications campaign, but I think what I want to leave you with this messaging is critical to your work. It's internal. The group that I mentioned in says Insider Threat subcommittee. But the profiling thing is important because what you can't do is send a lead out because Doug Thomas is born in Country X or he has a last name of something or the color of his skin. %PDF-1.5 I have been used to it for many years, so in your engagement with the board and the senior executives at Lockheed, what have you found is the most persuasive argument for them to get on board with spending money on insider threat and you know. 1 0 obj It can mean a piece of classified information. To execute a program like this, 'cause there's just your new and you're not known an, you're looked at strangely about wanting all this information. Israel Standing up a program is not the long pole in the tent. So he's looking at things 1520 years down the road. A pretty robust program, and you're collecting the right kind of data and it's being analyzed correctly. There's nothing wrong with that. You will get resistance when you first introduced this topic to whoever. I think I speak for everyone to say that we know a lot more than we did. So we came up with this definition and we socialize it with you. Based on the concept of operations, so I think that's very important. It's also about good governance. When theTop Gun: Maverickteam needed a head-turning design to feature in the film, Jim was ready to deliver and Darkstar was born. Like I said, this programs are scalable, so if you're a small company or a medium sized company, maybe you don't invest in a tool if you just hire the right person. There's nothing subjective about the data itself. The company just dropped his two week resignation notice and he's getting ready to go to company X. All of them had what I thought were pretty good. Empowering education leaders with the most innovative thinking in business and education. >> It kind of puts a nice book in on your talk and that is eating the elephant. His work has appeared in several academic and practitioner journals in the areas of logistics and operations management, includingManagement Science,Manufacturing and Service Operations ManagementandProduction and Operations Management. Quite frankly, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not necessarily a good thing either. We do collect data that the company doesn't collect. I would just say have patience building your program. Consent is not necessary because it's pull up publicly available. Presented by. What's unique about the F35 that makes it the awesome machine it is. So then what we did is we saw him. Because it's already data that the company has collected. /F3 16 0 R The assessment was. You really feel heard even if you are earlier in your career., "My job allows me to use my creativity to come up with innovative solutions for complex problems. It always keeps me on my toes. Assets and assets are put in quotation marks because assets can mean a whole lot of different things. An the program what it does it evaluates every employees, attributes, actions and behaviors 24/7. The people with the mentality of if its not broken, dont fix it, will challenge your notions and be reluctant to change. I think they do a better job of taking care of their information then the government takes care of classified information. Monday marks the 10th anniversary of the July 8, 2003 mass murder at the Lockheed Martin plant in Meridian, where Douglas Williams, 48 shot 14 coworkers, killing six of them before committing. It doesn't matter it be. In partnership with the Top Gun team, Becky was responsible for building the Darkstar vehicle, incluing a forebody model with a functional cockpit for an iconic actor. OK, so let me start the presentation on this slide. 1. Insider threat organization and governance is critical They really motivated me to use my leadership and engagement skills to bring the spouses together and to give them support. So these are the categories of metrics that we collect. If you're a company this size and quite frankly you don't have the bandwidth to actually manage that kind of, uh, a list of critical assets. We have to write up a justification to the Chief Privacy Officer. We have a chief Technology Officer at corporate and then dotted line to him or chief technology officers in the business areas. The first one that I have is ireally for companies that are in the middle market and by that I mean you know maybe there are a few 100 million in revenue or maybe only one or two billion in revenue. We're building the tool. Read More . He's being terminated from our company and you're on notice. This is an office that has a lot of oversight, so it must be being executed within our corporate values. Doug Thomas is the Henry E. McWane Professor of Business Administration at the Darden School of Business. So like in our tool. So I remember shortly after I got here meeting with the Chief Technology Officer to have him give us a list of critical assets in the company and the way we're set up at the company. So what works for those gaps? Your company's Crown jewels isn't that secret document, it's your intellectual property. And it's also about communicating with the employees. Finally, after denying it after six or seven times, he confessed. But now we also need to make sure they knew that we had a dedicated kind intelligence program and a robust insider threat detection program. For over 19 years, she has fulfilled her mission of delivering secure systems to our customers. Or maybe we think about behavioral analysis on our corporate network. Leidos said Monday that Thomas Bell, CEO of Rolls-Royce's North American subsidiary and president of its global defense business, will succeed Krone in the chief executive post, effective May 3. If you want to learn about counterintelligence for industry, you'd be hard pressed to find a better webinar guest than Doug Thomas. We have first. His wide-ranging career makes him one of the most influential counterintelligence and insider threat practitioners in the country. And that's a very hard thing to do. We're not collecting anything new. Maybe you just start off with one person you start off with hiring the right person. Moving over to 3rd column implementation, this really is where we started our messaging and I'll tell you a story real quick so. Insider threat is about people. /Parent 2 0 R Rep. John Garamendi, D-Calif., who leads HASC's readiness subcommittee, doubled down on Norcross's vow to fight adding extra F-35s to the FY22 budget. >> We showed up. So today the answer. 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