Disconnect the motor from the gears. (1-2mm). No, I didn't have the Key in position II. Cable Attachments Loose. There are (2?) When I was done, I used a razor blade to trim off the excess butyl. stuck half open / closed or making an awful noise when trying to move it. The sunroof now works. It seemed a little odd as it was leaking from both sides. 1990+ models have a separate rubber sealing flap at the rear edge of the gutter: when the roof is in the vent position, make sure this is secure along the entire length of the edge since it can slip off. [Inquiry:] My sunroof will not stop in the closed position and therfore the user must get out and look at the roof to make sure it is closed properly. I don't know where to start ? The flaw: In 700 sunroofs there is a metal bracket on each side with two grooves in it. VehicleHistory.com Play around with it, you'll figure out how it works. [Response: Rob Abel] Our sunroof in our '93 940 acts goofy at times. This is not the case, it just rained and the headliner is wet. Just leave the roof in parked position. We offer one of the largest collection of Volvo XC90 related news, gallery and technical articles. Open the panoramic roof fully Take hold of the button and pull it backward twice to fully open the panoramic roof. Hold both the driver window and passenger window switches in the. To remove the liner: With the liner out of the way you can check all the bolts and screws. Always operate the panoramic roof with caution. Electric Sunroof Motor Overhaul. The black cam followers had fairly sharp points that rested on the surface of the cam, while the white one had a rather blunt point. This requires you to remove the four hoses and clips around the perimiter. For insurance Volvo Car UK Limited is an Appointed Representative of Lloyd Latchford Group Limited who are authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority, FRN 496330. Adjustment is accomplished by loosening a number of screws, moving the roof and re-tightening. Sunroof Panel Gasket Falls Out. accessory fuses, but they look good. Sunroof Stuck Open: Check Electricals. The repair was carried out the day after Guy Fawkes Night; three days later it has hardly stopped raining and the inside of the sunroof is as dry as a bone. one each at the front and rear of each track, left and right. I removed the seal around the glass and had a good look. Pivots, levers, and hinges visible from inside the car. Maybe mine wasn't that far out but this didn't seem to make any difference, other than adjusting just how wide it opens. This will reset the computer. DON'T lose the square plastic retainer/washers mounted on the rearmost screws. 1) Try to perform a reset of your sunroof. Normal behavior is swiping for both, pressing once on the back side just vents the roof. Sunroof seals are no longer available from Volvo, but the If motor doesn't stop in same position, adjust it using a screwdriver. [Tip from John Sargent] The motor (or hand crank) is supposed to move both cables an equal amount. Lubricate the Remove the gutter channel. Disconnect the rear of the coil springs on either side where they are connected to the flat spring bails. Alternatively, some silicone sealant would have done the job in minutes. CTCCC instruction say apply at 30 minute intervals until the crack is filled. Do not open the panoramic roof when load carriers are fitted. The switch makes a clicking sound but the sunroof does not move. If this happens, the interior of your car will become wet due to the rain coming in through the roof. Note: you HAVE to remove the sunroof to do this since the ring slips off from the bottom. Put it all back together in reverse order and recalibrate. It was disconnected for about 45 minutes. [Tips from Ken Dibnah] If you have a 740 with an electric sunroof, when the roof is in the fully closed position you should be able to push the closed switch again and have the rear of the roof pop up to the 'vent' position. You must log in or register to reply here. If your roof does not move at all, you must NOT pry up the rear edge manually as there are cast tracks at the rear of the panel that hold it in place and you will break, bend, or damage the tracks, roof or the panel. down at all, you have a problem. The only manual that will adequately address this is the Volvo factory body manual (Body Fittings: Exterior/ TP 8202201). Sunroof Headliner Replacement. Take care not to scratch surfaces or damage strips. There are two rivets on either side that attach the cables that often come loose. Do you mean when you use the switch just like how you retract the shade one more time (after the shade has fully retracted), the sunroof glass won't move? Unless 1.7 changed something, you should be swiping for the shade and pressing for the sunroof. Check the wires of the sunroof, because a short can cause it to stop working. Vacuum the accessible portions of the sunroof pan too. First, turn the ignition switch to the first position. plumbers putty. Or do it w/o disconnecting the battery? To do this just loosen the screws that hold teh runner down and gently flex it up about 1/3". Moonroof is conected with alarm, and if alarm goes bad, moonroof won-t work. Warning ), but I would worry about getting it on clothing etc. I used a dry stick lube on the tracks, but I think something less viscous might help the operation (perhaps the aforementioned lithium grease? The headliner will release from these two clips when you push it back. Don't listen to what anyone else tells you trust me and ask for 1/8" material. If it is electric, there may be electrical problems with motor, switches, wires and fuses, which I will not deal with. Replace the circlips, again needle nose pliers work here. Adjust the sunroof position so that the front edge, when the panel is closed, is 0-1.5mm below the roof and the rear edge is 0-1mm above the roof edge. That caused a gap at the rear. I also don't have a remote for the car, but I'm not sure if that would be an issue or not. Don't do anything to the "push back guard", (not necessary) or look for springs or clips, (there aren't any.) If nothing moves as you move the crank towards 'vent', push up gently through that small rectangular opening inside the headliner on the rear of the panel to help it along, by just pushing it free of the roof. You might get lucky and find a good one in a junkyard. It does this via one major change: In the earlier models there is a metal arm approximately 2" long that reaches to a pin that sits in the aformentioned open ended groove on the rear of the venting arm. Lift the lower edges and they snap right out. [Rick Tilghman] Let me just say that you want to use 1/8" headliner EVERYWHERE, not just on the sunroof. 2004 volvo xc 90 AUTO T - 6 / V - 6 twin turbo , 2900 c.c. 2) Check for blown fuses and damaged wiring. [Inquiry:] My sunroof motor has died and I do not want to spend $400-500 to replace with a new Volvo motor. Also the roof is rarely cleaned or lubricated: if this is done carefully, the only thing to do is to replace worn/broken bits and then adjust the 4 adjusting screws, one at each corner. Open the roof in the vent position and use a flashlight to take a closer look. If it does not work, remove the panel that covers it and use the tool that is supplied in the tool kit, inserted in the shaft, to manually move it. Yes the screen goes back an then the roof jumps but will not open it will pop up to the vent mode but not slide back. It was then that I noticed water between the weather seal and glass on my glass panel. The sunroof roof itself is only held into place by 6-8 screws, and lifts out once you gain access to these and remove them. Do you know how to get at the roof? You can adjust the settings for the panoramic roof according to preferences and requirements. To remove the sunroof from the assembly: pull the sunroof toward the back of the assembly so that the tabs on the back of the sunroof slide out of the tracks. Move it back so that about one inch is showing at the rear. care for silicone adhesive, and I would use weatherstrip cement to This is particularly valuable if You're replacing the motor, but it might also come in handy if the sunroof just won't open or close fully. Anyway, the solution was just to uncouple the retaining arms from the flap (you have to push the flap to a straight up position to do this with it in place), push the arms up out the way, remove the pre-molded resistance piece, bend it appropriately so that it is forcefully "loaded", and reinstall. Re-install, adjust, and problem solved. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. The sunroof works great, only the shade won't move Any ideas of what could be happening? [Rick Tilghman] Over time the sealing ring around the sunroof's edge becomes worn and frayed, allowing water to leak in regardless of how the roof is seated. These batteries last about 7-8 years and when they give out your alarm siren will no longer work. Other car I worked on was a crank-driven roof on an 85 740 GLE, but I think there was no involvement with these cables, except to unclip 'em when the panel came out? If I recall correctly an improperly grounded motor will "click" but not move, You will be removing the motor so it would be best to put sunroof in vent or closed position with a screwdriver on the manual ove, If voltage and ground check out - reconnect connector and unscrew (2 phillips) and unbolt nut (10mm) and let motor hang (not a good idea but what the heck). When that happens you get some weird behaviour like the emergency flashers going off after the car sits a while and the sun roof will not open. To check for debris, try to open and close the sunroof manually with a pair of pliers. I don't have a manual yet so I'm not sure how this is supposed to work. I only left disconnected for a couple of minutes before trying each above. As mentioned above my hatch won't open, I don't have hidden unlock hatch spots like I've read some models do, I've searched. Adjust the sunroof height by operating the sunroof SLIGHTLY in the rearward position and also in the ventilation position, flipped up in the back. V70, S60, V70-XC and XC-70 Cross Country 2001-2007, Mod note. Tollys Creeping Crack Cure. Sorry to hear that, I have a annual membership in a local car wash and I wash my car sometimes every other day and never had an issue although it is not a touch free wash (free dealer carwash is too far and way too slow). An overhaul is labor intensive and a new motor might be a better choice] [Response: Rob Bareiss] Replace the motor or live with it. [Editor] Using Mobil 1 Spray Lube, Superlube, or Valvoline Synpower clear spray oils, spray the following: Operate the sunroof to spread the oil and be able to see any spots you missed. A blown fuse means that there is a short in the circuit. the cables at a spot putting it out of synch. If your electric sunroof will not retract, you can manually close it using a screwdriver. G. GrayVolvo 4 Replies. Get a coat hanger and cut out the straight part. 5. Moonroofs. Thankfully mine was under warranty. If there is no resistance, then the wiring of the circuit is good. CTCCC can be used to repair water leaks between the sunroof glass and gasket. Sunroof: Replace Crank with Motor. Result: So far the sunroof has operated 100% reliably. Press the button downward once to close the panoramic roof from ventilation position. That way, I didn't have to do a bunch of re-adjusting of the sunroof itself when reassembling. Volvo is a car manufacturer that is best known for its robust safety features, durability, and design. Make sure the sunroof retracting mounts, up front and to the side, are properly positioned and as far forward as possible. There are four in the front and (depending on model) two on either side in the middle, and two on either side in the back. If you replace broken tracks/racks, I would replace them in pairs, as whatever shock that has caused the roof to fail may have affected both sides. by brandonbeach14 13 May 2011, 10:01, Post 3. by brandonbeach14 13 May 2011, 11:55, Post These two levers, one on either side of the sunroof running parellel to the car's direction, control the venting action and sitting height of the sunroof. Place a blanket on the roof in front of the opening to avoid any scratches. Now just pull the whole assembly out through the top. Should be 2 revolutions. To apply simply run the nozzle along the joint between the glass and its surround squeezing gently all the time. 1 Turn the ignition switch to position 1. This will help make sure the new ring doesn't slide down and dislodge when you vent or move the sunroof. [Colin Shepherd] Wire 12v direct to the motor connections as a first step to isolating the problem before stripping out the micro-switches etc. With not too much trouble you can get the cables indexed to each other. If the sunroof needs more extensive repair, remove all screws and lift out the sunroof. I don't You should periodically clean your sunroof tracks, so that debris does not accumulate in those tracks. If the motor is not working, it could be due to a blown fuse. If there is resistance to the crank motion immediately, there is 'likely' to not be any damage in the screw mechanism, just binding of the panel in the roof. [John Seaton]. installed, make sure the moonroof closes properly. This may take some trial and error but if the motor is working correctly you'll figure it out eventually - HeHe. VOLVO XC60 XC70 XC90 - HOW TO OPEN SUN ROOF - YouTube 0:00 / 1:08 VOLVO XC60 XC70 XC90 - HOW TO OPEN SUN ROOF DIY Pinto 69.3K subscribers 60K views 5 years ago How to open sunroof. Snap the strips back in place and you are done. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Doing this will allow for proper control mechanism centering, a procedure I needed to repeat. The XC90 is known for its luxurious interior, smooth ride, and its sleek exterior. It can also be used for ventilation. Thanks again. We offer one of the largest collection of Volvo XC90 related news, gallery and technical articles. If you notice your sunroof is sagging constantly, and that you can't seem to get it to stay at the height you want, even WITH massive adjustment of the sitting screws, this may be your problem. I had to remove or loosen all the screws out of the pan except for the ones across the front which kept everything in its proper location. [Inquiry] I removed my crank to try to adjust the position of the sunroof. The sunroof is still stuck shut. After several days of rain the car is To access the screws on the front will require you to 'spring' the wind deflector open wider than normal. The timing gear has three alignment points on three levels which correspond to vent, closed and full open. Mercedes-Benz Forum Finally, remove the grab handles and trim behind the grab handles on one side to expose the screw fixing the A pillar trim which you then also remove and the panel underneath the steering column above the driver's feet. If sunroof is in vent position motor can be reinstalled. Turn on and off the car 5 times. The fix is to pull the sunroof panel and replace the sealing ring with a new one. Pressing the close button doesn't do anything, the shade is not moving. Is there some other solution? To check for a blockage, try to remove any debris from the sunroof and make sure that there are no blocks in the mechanism. Had I spotted it before I removed the entire sunroof, I could have undone the 4 bolts holding the glass panel and changed the seal with all other trim and fixtures in place. Volvo XC90 Forum is the premier Volvo XC90 community. [Editor: see overhaul notes above. You should now have the interior and exterior parts of the sunroof. From the outside, release the spring clips from the sunroof lining, a pair of needle nose pliers works for this. Will it move at all, will it retract ok and not close, will it flip up in the back? Remove the cover. tracks and the sliding mechanism. Remove the screws from the front of the pan. Clicks and doesn't move - gets stuck - usually open - have had to close it manually by taking off cover and using screwdriver. by beetlebob 13 May 2011, 12:50, Post from the auto parts store, a hard plastic card, a spray bottle of One of the pre-molded pieces actually snapped as I was playing with it. They are at the back of the sunroof, one left and one on right. Yesterday, my 11 year old son opened the sunroof while my wife was driving, and now it won't close. The adjustment screws on my sunroof were maxed, and the sunroof was still low. Found historical records. See also Ken Didnah's sunroof overhaul tips below.] Bend the end to form a small hook, Pull the edge of the sunroof liner down at the end sticking up (remember your sunroof should be in the vent position). Also, the 1/4" material is much heavier and will pull off the headliner backing board over time faster than the 1/8".). Make sure the sunroof itself sits in the roof properly, i.e. Remove the crank from the drive gear shaft. Re-Aligning the Crank Gears While Aligning the Sunroof. It also turns out that these pieces and their accompanying brackets aren't stainless, because the whole damned thing was rusting like mad. I will bet that they won't guarantee one of those motors once it's out of their sight. by 1 Turn the ignition switch to position 1. While the sunroof is apart, clean out the tracks and lubricate the moving parts. To do this, simply open the sunroof manually and let it close again before pressing the same button again. grendel1960 4 Replies. Worth the bother? In use it is necessary to wait until the first application has dried; when using in cold damp conditions it takes longer than 30 mins. Electric Sunroof Alignment. Make sure the vent part of the inner sunroof headliner panel is pushed down completely so it is flat. by brandonbeach14 13 May 2011, 13:11, Post My immediate solution was to snip the bottom of the adjustment holes off so they became slots. [Symptom: I have a 90 740 GLE and noticed that the sunroof is getting stuck when trying to close. On mine when you closed the sunroof it would close then open back up six inches as if it hit something. This little procedure will save you $100's of dollars. Back outside with the panel almost fully extracted remove the screws mentioned above. Local Home Delivery Available!, AWD, Leather. I first gently pried back the rubber gasket on the glass side and scraped all the crap off to ensure a good seal, then forced the sealant around the perimeter of the glass. Sand contacts lightly with sandpaper. They are able to achieve excellent fuel economy, which makes them great options for drivers who are looking for an efficient vehicle. Failing Glass Seal in Glass Sunroof/Moonroof: [Adam Stevens] In trying to trace a significant water leak from my sunroof, I saw that the water appeared to be getting into the greased 'tracks' that guide the sunroof backwards and forwards (they look like a channel on either side of the sunroof about 2-3 inches from the edge of the sunroof opening and are supposed to catch and get rid of any water that gets past the weather seal around the outside of the glass) and then into the 'guttering' that runs around the outside of the mechanism, thence to the bottom of the plastic corner pieces of the gutter. Now, turn counter clockwise till it locks. But don't align the gear points directly with the three level plunger - they will interfere when putting the cover back on. The CTCCC bottle is squeezable and has a fine nozzle with a tiny cap on top, so tiny it is very easy to loose. Review engine, brake issues, error codes and more with a Mechanic Online in just minutes. A little investigation showed the water was Now test the motor while electrically connected including the ground. Remove the 5 or 6 screws from the side brackets on each side. 5350 N Keystone Ave, Indianapolis, IN 46220. Not sure if it's the same setup as the cars, but the alarm module may have failed, which is extremely common. The cardboard was positioned so that the follower would contact it, thus compensating for the presumed wear to the tip of the follower. A properly working motor will rotate (as seen from the bottom and in vent position) CCW about 1 turn to closed, pause, push SR button again and CCW about 8 turns to full open. This plastic cover contains two microswitches, a selenoid (remember "click") and three small pointed plungers. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Might be a good idea in your case since you are concerned about the hoses being clogged. Now the motor can be reinstalled. If not, I can't help. This will help when you retime the motor. They are fairly obvious and easy to access with needle-nose pliers. For example, a sunroof can be broken if the plastic parts are damaged or scratched. Sunroof wont open - Answered by a verified Volvo Mechanic. Just be careful the vent panel doesn't slip upwards and get caught. On the middle of the three cams there is a white plastic follower that moves a plastic leaf that in turn activates both microswitches. It is important to clean the sunroof tracks, because dirt and debris can cause the sunroof to become stuck open. If you notice that your motor is dead, you can replace it with a new one. Loosen the four screws with M5 8 mm socket and lift the glass. First, ground the sunroof motor by attaching the black wire to one of the sunroof bolts. On mine when you closed the sunroof it would close then open back up six inches as if it hit something. Never had a problem. Release buttons. See the Sunroof Sag section for details. Take your time, have a friend assist, maybe even videotape the entire procedure, just in case. crowcrow. The rear just does not lift high enough. [Tip from Lawrence] With the sunroof in the vent position, release the springs so the sunroof will lay flat (you will need to use needle nose pliers to reach underneath to release the spring, the spring holds the sunroof headliner to the sunroof). 2019 VOLVO XC90 - YV4102PK3K1503250 - Sale Record. [Diagnosis:] If your guides are not broken then you may just be out of adjustment. To fully open the sunroof, press the control back to the position for automatic opening again and release. If no movement then motor is in vent position. [Inquiry:] We just got an 89 740GL, the owner said that the sunroof only leaked when washed with a high pressure spray. If it's still not working, try the same procedure with the sunroof fully open -- this should successfully reset. The device that is connected to the motor/crank via screw cables slides back and forth in these tracks, raising and lowering the panel, which will not be possible unless you can move the crank/motor. Alternatively, you can try to first turn the ignition switch to the first position. Put the tracks aside. BADVIN Premium Report. Sales: 317-528-9850. With switches free test each one for high resistance through the normally closed circuit - the front (blue or red) connections to side terminals. Now, run motor CW (as seen from below) until it stops, push on momentary switch again. Reinstall the crank, and turn clockwise (vent position) till it stops. You can see the adjustment Allen (some may be Torx or Phillips) screws in the four corners. Close the panoramic roof from ventilation position. Any other ideas:? [Jeff] My leak was where the glass was laminated to the frame. The first and most important step is to determine the extent of your sunroof problem. Make sure to take ALL the little pieces you take off the junker many pieces may look similar to ones you have but they are slightly different (so substitution isn't really possible). Steve. tray at catching water and getting it into the drain hoses. The tracks at the rear of the panel move the panel up and down, either to pull it down before retracting or to pop the rear of the panel up for the 'vent' position, and if they are damaged or too gunked up, they will resist opening. Children, other passengers or objects may be trapped by the panoramic roof's moving parts. It can be purchased from the manufactures website www.captaintolley.com or from one of the retailers listed on the site. Remove the mechanism too and replace with motor, this is a direct fit. Thanks again. If the car is switched off, turn the start knob to START and release the knob. cam follower was correct and that the roof will continue to work properly. is a metal strip along the front edge of the tray with a lip on top. Sometimes the transmission will slip on If you feel under the rocker panel, there is a "D" shaped hole that the water from the sunroof and the fresh air vent (at the base of the windshield) drain to. Sunroof Stuck Open: Check Electricals. "This defect inevitably causes the sound plugs to become clogged with dirt and other debris, causing water to be diverted directly to the interior of the vehicles, rather than the exterior. I have not tried this, but it may actually be easier if you have a second pair of hands. There are 3 different sources available. This could be due to an electrical short or it could be due to a malfunctioning fuse.

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